Bible view on Women & Politics

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Of the believers I know and run into, the vast majority have not read their Bibles to any extent. But then, their religion is far less about belief or about a book than many Atheists would like to fantasize. Yet if you get believers reading their Bibles, they may wake up to the silliness behind the banner to which they pledge allegiance.

Likewise, most American’s who claim to be patriotic don’t mean they support everything America ever did. In fact, most have no idea of what their government has done. When a “self-declared patriot” learns about the evils done by their sacred governments, they may either stop calling themselves a patriot or redefine “patriot” or some other move to massage their cognitive dissonance.  You see the religious parallels, I’m sure.

Today I’d like to share Bible readings which I recommend you share with believers to show them what is behind their religious banner. Yesterday, Steve Wells (author of “Drunk with Blood”), did a fantastic post quoting Bible passages to show the the various Bible views on marriage. Get one of your Christian friends to read it and maybe you’ll see their banner fade a bit.

This “banner therapy” can work in many realms.  Try to find some accurate history books for your patriot friends to read — hint, they are tough to find in the government public schools.  Then watch what they do with their banners — I am watching that happen with my son this last month.

The banners we fly often are fueled on biased information.  Even without banners, people can do good but this is hard for folks to understand when their banners largely serve the function of supplying identity and security.


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8 responses to “Bible view on Women & Politics

  1. TWF

    The banners appear to be part of our tribal nature. It’s difficult to give up something that comes so naturally. It’s like giving up sugar or salt. But while the dangers of excessive sugar or salt are somewhat defined scientifically, the dangers of banner-clinging are not as apparent to those holding the banners.

  2. Indeed, TWF — ’tis complex and we all do it! Religion, like everything else, is fed by human foibles.

  3. I’ve been thinking recently about doing this for the Pali Canon. That’s the scriptures of Theravada Buddhism. Many Westerners have the idea that the Canon is rational, anti-authoritarian, and has ethical views entirely compatible with liberal American values. This is based on propaganda plus selective quoting of about four of the Suttas (out of thousands). The Suttas are extremely boring, so almost no one has read more than those few.

    I strongly suspect that one could find all manner of repellent quotes in the Canon. A compilation of those would have a salutary effect on modern Buddhism, I think.

    Unfortunately, finding those would require reading a lot of Suttas, and they are extraordinarily tedious, so I’m probably not going to be the one to do this…

  4. “Blessed is the person who builds on sand, knowing what will happen than the one who builds on rock thinking it will last forever.” -Joe Pintauro

    I am one who believes in the importance of a common identity. A speaker at the Chautauqua Institution stated that this is derived from 4 Institutions of Meaning. These are: family, community, vocation, and faith. These are the only four arenas for happiness and meaning and the speaker challenged us to come up with another domain. All of these deal with birth, death, making a living, contributing to others, and all of these institutions help and facilitate these. These four have been falling through the floor. Esp. for the working class.

    The problem is when the -ism sets in. Sectarianism, tribalism, racism, sexism, etc. Many progressive Christians are stating that maybe we have placed the emphasis in the wrong place. We have traditionally placed emphasis on the answers to questions like “what is the meaning of life? how shall i live? where do i find meaning?” and instead emphasize the question.

    It’s a nice thought. We’ll see what happens with it.

  5. @ David Chapman,
    Indeed, that would be a great projection. Modern American Buddhists would may realize how cleaned-up, polished and Protestantized (and Romanticized) their sect of Buddhism is. The illusion of “the real teaching of the Buddha” will wither a bit.

    @ Luke,
    How about an introductory paragraph telling us what you thought about this post –reacting to it — and then a line which segues to your “4 Institution of Meaning” sermon. Thanx.

  6. I did tell you what I thought. You didn’t hear it.

  7. Dear David,

    Bhante Sujato has written a book on the depiction of women in the Pali Canon: + Bhikkhu Analayo researches the topic at the University of Hamburg: (something less scholarly by him: As a translator of some suttas I can assure you that they can be fun to read (this way, for example:



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